Forum Discussions - STLRAMSCFL.COM2024-03-29T14:27:55Zhttp://www.stlramscfl.com/forum?feed=yes&xn_auth=noGood websites for CFL infotag:www.stlramscfl.com,2017-12-15:6300087:Topic:480012017-12-15T23:07:40.454ZJohn Whylehttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/JohnWhyle
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I have been following the CFL for the last two years. I find it highly entertaining. Both Grey Cup games have rivaled any NFL championship . I have also studied CFL history, especially it’s venture into the USA. I understand Canadians’ concerns when it comes to another attempt to place teams outside their borders. I believe that the league tried to expand too fast with too many teams. The results were disastrous. However, if just one team were placed in the United States, I think great interest…
I have been following the CFL for the last two years. I find it highly entertaining. Both Grey Cup games have rivaled any NFL championship . I have also studied CFL history, especially it’s venture into the USA. I understand Canadians’ concerns when it comes to another attempt to place teams outside their borders. I believe that the league tried to expand too fast with too many teams. The results were disastrous. However, if just one team were placed in the United States, I think great interest would ensue. St. Louis could be that place. I agree with many of the points that I have read on this website. However, there is one issue that I disagree with. That is with the name. If we are going to truly part ways with the NFL, let it be complete. Rams was simply a name brought from LA, and to LA it returned. Besides, does anyone really believe that the all-mighty league would allow that name without a court challenge? Just ask Baltimore how that turned out. No, let’s start anew. Of the nine teams in the CFL, none of them have the colors of silver and black. I would propose that those be our teams colors. And what about the name or mascot? What is our city’s most recognizable symbol? Of course we all know it’s the gateway Arch. But how can a monument be a mascot you might ask? Simple: a duel meaning. A warrior who fights with a bow and arrow: an Archer! We could be the St. Louis Archers. The emblem could be both the Arch and an Archer. I hope many of you will take my idea into consideration. USA expansion of CFLtag:www.stlramscfl.com,2017-08-04:6300087:Topic:463012017-08-04T19:35:04.886ZMarc Singerhttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/MarcSinger
<p>I lived through the debacle of losing an NFL franchise, the Baltimore Colts. Until the CFL Stallions came to Baltimore I has supported the Philadelphia Eagles. I can understand your pain.<br></br>The Stallions drew about 30,000 fans prior to their move to Montreal, brought on by the establishment of the Ravens. I still follow the <span>Alouettes as my adopted CFL team. </span></p>
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<p><span>For the most part the CFL is a pure passing league. It has a lot of action packed into 60 seconds…</span></p>
<p>I lived through the debacle of losing an NFL franchise, the Baltimore Colts. Until the CFL Stallions came to Baltimore I has supported the Philadelphia Eagles. I can understand your pain.<br/>The Stallions drew about 30,000 fans prior to their move to Montreal, brought on by the establishment of the Ravens. I still follow the <span>Alouettes as my adopted CFL team. </span></p>
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<p><span>For the most part the CFL is a pure passing league. It has a lot of action packed into 60 seconds of play.Since the playing field is large you can get plenty of scoring with just 3 downs. The players are as skilled as NFL players but the skill set is a little different due to the league differences.</span></p>
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<p><span>The CFL wants to expand to ten teams. Most likely the Maritime provinces. The problem has been that Hallifax-Monkton has not come up with money for a new stadium and may not have an ownership group that can provide stability. </span></p>
<p><span>Here is my advice for "bending the ear" of CFl officials regarding a second USA expansion;</span></p>
<p><span>1, Be willing to give up on the "Rams". The NFL sued Jim Speros regarding the name Colts.</span></p>
<p><span>He did not have the same amount of financial deep pockets as the Billionaires who own the NFL franchises. So Stallions was born.</span></p>
<p><span>2. Be willing to become the 10th franchise in the CFL, probably Eastern division. If you get a CFL franchise and it is successful other USA cities may follow.</span></p>
<p><span>3. You need a STRONG ownership group.</span></p>
<p><span>4. Don't "Mickey Mouse" the stadium. Have a field conform to CFL requirements. </span></p>
<p><span>5. You will probable need to show a base of solid 30,000 season ticket holders. No need for PSLs!</span></p>
<p><span>Good luck to all Pro football fans in St. Louis and other cities screwed by the NFL..</span></p> The Reality of St.Louis CFL Expansiontag:www.stlramscfl.com,2016-05-11:6300087:Topic:421062016-05-11T03:46:23.388ZCory Hieberthttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/CoryHiebert
<p style="text-align: left;">To start things off, I am a canadian and a fan of CFL expansion into America. I know the expansion in the early 90's that failed (with the exception of baltimore that got bullied by the NFL); but i'm a believer that we can learn from past mistakes and avoid them). That being said I have read all the points this site makes and it looks like you have a lot already figured out. However there are some major hurdles/problems that St.Louis and any american cities looking…</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">To start things off, I am a canadian and a fan of CFL expansion into America. I know the expansion in the early 90's that failed (with the exception of baltimore that got bullied by the NFL); but i'm a believer that we can learn from past mistakes and avoid them). That being said I have read all the points this site makes and it looks like you have a lot already figured out. However there are some major hurdles/problems that St.Louis and any american cities looking to join the CFL.</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">So here's a list of hurdles that must be surpassed before relocation:</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">- Bigger TV audiences </p>
<p style="text-align: left;">You may or may not know this but the NFL network does broadcast CFL games during the season. So a good start would be watching games, introducing the game to friends and family, demand more broadcasts and help gain awareness. This is crucial because it will get the fan base started. </p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">- Getting ownership possibilities in line</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">I've read on this site of potentially a community owned team or a potential owner to buy the team. If that can generate support from a strong enough fan base (interested in the CFL game) then St. Louis can move to the next step.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">- Getting the CFL to come play an exhibition or season game in St.Louis </p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Since the rapid expansion the CFL has been very cautious with it's expansion process. When we lost the Ottawa Roughriders at the end of 1996, the league jumped the process and tried to bring back one of the leagues founding cities too quickly by bringing back a franchise five years later in 2002. Unfortunately, they didn't not win games and slowly attendance dwindled down to eventual bankruptcy in 2006. In 2008 Ottawa went through a six year process to finally bring back their team in 2014, which has brought in smart management and with the new CFL expansion draft format has seemed to have worked, including a Grey Cup appearance last year. With all that being said the CFL has had many exhibition games even season games in potential Canadian cities, although without stable ownership and a couple shaky fan bases nothing has worked out. If exhibition games are played in St. Louis and it has enough ticket sales at these games to generate ownership interest then the next step can be taken(probably the hardest and biggest hurdle). One good way to get the CFL to play games in St.Louis would get a petition going and sending it to them and city council.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">- Adapting To CFL Rules</p>
<p style="text-align: left;">Most of you who have watched even 10 minutes of a CFL game can spot one key difference is that there are only downs. Their are other key rules that you may not notice. For one the style of play. The CFL has a longer and wider field than NFL or NCAA football, which allows for an extra player on each side of the field. Also there is a lot and I mean A LOT of motion behind the line of scrimmage prior to the snap. But probably THE MOST IMPORTANT ONE OF ALL. Is that in the CFL we have a ratio rule and by this I mean that each team must have a minimum of 21 Canadian players on the roster and have a minimum of 7 Canadians on the starting roster as per (<a href="http://www.cfl.ca/game-rule-ratio/">http://www.cfl.ca/game-rule-ratio/</a>). The problem is the american labour force union won't want to follow that rule. So there is probably the biggest Issue and gonna be the hardest hurdle to jump over. </p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">In Summary, it's gonna be a long road and will probably take four to six years to get a team in St. Louis if all goes right. This is also the process any other american city looking with interest in CFL expansion will have to go through. And not to mention the NFL bullying cities out of getting a team. Although with all that said and done, I am personally routing for St. Louis. If St. Louis is successful in bringing in a team, the team could be a building block into American cities joining the CFL.</p>
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<p style="text-align: left;">- Other smaller issues</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"> - paying players in Canadian dollar</p>
<p style="text-align: left;"> - St. Louis wouldn't be able to keep the Rams name </p>
<p style="text-align: left;"> - Travel costs for teams </p> Season Ticketstag:www.stlramscfl.com,2016-04-27:6300087:Topic:413852016-04-27T01:13:54.287ZManny Levinehttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/MannyLevine
<p> I think that taking season ticket pledges for the 2017 season should be the next step - it;s the best way to evaluate and prove interest. A target should be set, probably something in the order of 18,000 pledges.. Modest deposits could be taken and held by a local credit union.</p>
<p> I think that taking season ticket pledges for the 2017 season should be the next step - it;s the best way to evaluate and prove interest. A target should be set, probably something in the order of 18,000 pledges.. Modest deposits could be taken and held by a local credit union.</p> St. Louis is better off without the NFL Ramstag:www.stlramscfl.com,2016-03-20:6300087:Topic:415882016-03-20T13:25:35.392ZAlexhttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/Alex
<p>there are beautiful cities all over N.A. that have no affiliation with the NFL and will not go into debt to support these guys. Now you have a chance to use the money to build your city, parks, schools, downtown, etc. and your city will grow. You don't need them and you don't need your city going into more debt to support them. </p>
<p>You have an idea on this site for another team from a league that has a long tradition. Some of those teams were formed in the 1860's. Players in both leagues…</p>
<p>there are beautiful cities all over N.A. that have no affiliation with the NFL and will not go into debt to support these guys. Now you have a chance to use the money to build your city, parks, schools, downtown, etc. and your city will grow. You don't need them and you don't need your city going into more debt to support them. </p>
<p>You have an idea on this site for another team from a league that has a long tradition. Some of those teams were formed in the 1860's. Players in both leagues are from the same small pool of players (16000 NCAA grads per year and 300 drafted between both leagues) . Once a CFL game starts you can't see the differences in the players or rules. An owner will pay all of his obligations for a lease and still make 15 - 20 million profit if fans come out to the games. </p> Another CFL USA expansion COULD work, ESPECIALLY in St. Louis!tag:www.stlramscfl.com,2016-02-25:6300087:Topic:412832016-02-25T17:29:54.685ZMatt Lalorhttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/MattLalor
<p>To begin with, allow me to say that, although I have not abandoned the NFL, myself and several of my friends and family members have embraced the Great Northern Game and hold our CFL fandom well above that of the NFL. After all-- the NFL is a good stopgap measure for me between the Grey Cup and the start of the Australian Football League season in March!</p>
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<p>Next, I am NOT a Rams fan. I am a displaced Washington fan originally from Virginia. That being said, I have lived in the…</p>
<p>To begin with, allow me to say that, although I have not abandoned the NFL, myself and several of my friends and family members have embraced the Great Northern Game and hold our CFL fandom well above that of the NFL. After all-- the NFL is a good stopgap measure for me between the Grey Cup and the start of the Australian Football League season in March!</p>
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<p>Next, I am NOT a Rams fan. I am a displaced Washington fan originally from Virginia. That being said, I have lived in the St. Louis area long enough to have seen TWO teams bail on us, as well as being shafted during expansion in the 90's that would have made the Stallions our very own home-grown NFL franchise!</p>
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<p>Continuing, There's a REASON that it's known as the No Fun League. The NFL has become so uptight and stodgy in how it plays and officiates the game that it's rarely fun to watch football anymore. Excessive celebrating? Fines if your sock rolls down during a play? Too much boozing and fighting in the stands? Don't EVEN get me started on concussions and the general health of former pro football players.....</p>
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<p>Further, I am a devoted and ravenous fan of the Saskatchewan Roughriders, and am the proud possessor of a 101st Grey Cup Championship ring from 2013 (even though it's a replica Darian Durant ring, I wear it proudly as a member of Rider Nation!). I proudly wear both home and road jerseys emblazoned with the number 13 upon them, because Rider nation are considered by the team to be the 13th Man, having gone so far as to retire the number 13 in honour of The Fans.</p>
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<p>All that said in the interest of full disclosure, let me also say that I would put all of that aside, or at least on the back burner, to become a devoted and ravenous fan of a St. Louis CFL expansion team!!!</p>
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<p>Where to begin with my thoughts?!?</p>
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<p>First off, I think the initial CFL USA expansion was an abject failure outside of Baltimore because it was done all wrong! It was merely a cash grab as an effort to save foundering Canadian teams (that worked!), and they gave franchises to pretty much anyone who's cheque cleared!</p>
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<p>Second, save for Baltimore, the markets were all wrong! They were largely southern cities and regions known for fierce loyalty to well-established and storied NCAA programs. And everyone was confused as to why attendance vanished once college seasons started in Shreveport, Birmingham, Memphis, etc.</p>
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<p>Third, the stadiums SUCKED for Canadian Football! The disaster of the Liberty Bowl stands out most notably because of it being practically confined to an American gridiron. Being well before the advent of the soccer-specific stadium, college and former pro stadiums could not accommodate a Canadian field. The Toronto Argonauts moving into BMO Field and sharing it with FC Toronto, the Canadians have shown us the way!</p>
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<p>Fourth, again, save for Baltimore, each and every CFL USA team did not hire even ONE person familiar with the Canadian game to be a part of either the coaching or managerial staff. Especially with the southern teams, nostalgia won out over common sense and former NCAA coaching and playing figures were hired and had absolutely no idea how to manage and coach the Canadian game. Baltimore started with Jim Popp as GM and hired coaches and staff with CFL experience, and they went to the freakin' Grey Cup both years they existed, and are the only non-Canadian team to ever win the Earl's Jug!!!</p>
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<p>And fifth and lastly, the CFL expanded too far and too fast. Sensibly, the Sacramento Gold Miners were the first US based team to play in the CFL, joining in 1993. They hired the wrong people, their stadium was not suited for Canadian football, the market was ridiculous, but they were the only one. The next year, teams were added in San Antonio, Shreveport, Memphis, Birmingham, etc., and it was a disorganized cluster f***. Much like every other pro football league and what the local press dubbed "oddball sports" like Arenaball Stampede and the Vipers of RHI and the like, they went too far too fast and doomed themselves to failure.</p>
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<p>And now, my thoughts IN FAVOUR of a new CFL expansion effort, particularly into St. Louis!!!</p>
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<p>1) St. Louis has been burned TWICE now by the No Fun League. No matter what we do as a sports community, and despite any empty promises the NFL makes, we will NEVER see another NFL franchise based in the St. Louis, MO, area again. This is fact. Most sports and business media sources agree (ESPN, USA Today, Yahoo! Sports, Wall Street Journal, etc.).</p>
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<p>2) Both times we DID have an NFL team, we wound up with someone else's unwanted garbage. The Gridbirds? Chicago's afterthought, relocated to St. Louis and played as much as they could off of the novelty of two pro sports teams with the same name and colours. Then, Phoenix wound up with someone else's unwanted garbage. Good riddance to bad rubbish. Next, we get the Rams, someone else's unwanted garbage. Aside from three marvelous and seemingly miraculous seasons, they promptly went back to being the doormats of the NFC. Yeah, 1999 was an awesome football year here, and it was a taste of what football could have been in St. Louis, but it was a flash in the pan that fizzled out as quickly as it started. If we DID wind up with another team (don't hold your breath!), again, it would be someone else's unwanted garbage that would never be successful on the field.<br/><br/></p>
<p>3) Had we been granted the Stallions as an expansion team, we would STILL have NFL football, and, success or no, they would be an irreplaceable part of the sports fabric of St. Louis. Look at Cardinal baseball-- the team was born here, it has history here, it thrives here. Blues hockey-- the team was born here, it has history here, it thrives here. Both the Cardinals and the Blues are, and always HAVE been, OUR teams!!! From day one, they were St. Louis teams! NOT someone else's unwanted garbage!!! Even when the Blues almost moved to Saskatoon in the 80's, the NHL put a stop to it! If that expansion team had become the St. Louis Stallions instead of the Jacksonville Jaguars, we wouldn't be in this situation, and the Stallions would be like the Cardinals and the Blues, because they would be our very own!<br/><br/></p>
<p>4) A CFL expansion team would be our very own, from the ground up, born and bred here. There are NO Canadian teams that would ever move to a US market. There would be riots! (Besides-- the St. Louis Roughriders or the St. Louis Argonauts just don't sound good.) Our football team would be born of a St. Louis identity, and we could shape it into whatever we, as a sports community and fan base, want it to be! Think Ernie Hayes on the organ at Busch Stadium playing "Here Come The Kings" as the clydesdales circle the field. Think of how playing "When The Blues Go Marching In" is played after every Blues goal since 1967. Think of Ron Baechele, aka "Towel Man", counting off goals and throwing t-shirts at hockey games. What will be the tradition we build at our CFL team's games?!? Let's find out!!!</p>
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<p>5) The Dome is still a damn good sports facility!!! It's only 20 years old!!! The Riders have been playing on the same field with an ever expanding stadium since 1910!!! And they're only NOW building a new stadium!!! The Dome has hosted numerous international soccer matches with room to spare. Much like BC Place in Vancouver and the former SkyDome in Toronto, the end zone seats pull back to accommodate the deeper end zones. And ALSO like BC Place, we could even only use the lower bowl of the Dome for home games. BC Place hangs baffles and curtains from the mezzanine for Lions games in recent seasons. Just because the Dome seats 60,000 doesn't mean we have to HAVE 60,000. If nothing else, we have a home for a team for many, many years!</p>
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<p>6) Again, BC Place has shown us the way as far as renovation is concerned-- they went from an inflated roof just like the Metrodome in Minneapolis, to a retractable roof in the span of one season, utilizing a fairly decent temporary stadium during that time. Look it up-- it could DEFINITELY be an option for the Dome here!</p>
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<p>7) If we also get an MLS expansion team, the two teams could definitely share the stadium! Again, BMO Field in Toronto is showing us the way! The Argos will call BMO Field home starting this June after 26 years in the cavernous expanse of the SkyDome. Smaller stadium, the only grass field currently used in the CFL, and a more intimate game day experience makes this a win-win for the Argos and their fans! If we build a shared MLS/CFL stadium here, the only thing we'd need is a minimum of 20,000 seats and end zone seating that retracts to accommodate the deeper end zones.<br/><br/></p>
<p>8) If expansion is done properly and slowly this time around, it will DEFINITELY work! Throwing six brand new teams into the CFL mix at once can NOT happen again. If the market is right (and St. Louis IS right!), facilities are right (they ARE!), and the right people with CFL or CIS experience are brought in to manage, run, and coach the team (They BETTER be!!!), a St. Louis CFL team will thrive here!!!</p>
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<p>Thank you for your time in reading this lengthy diatribe! I apologize for being so wordy.</p>
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<p>But please know that I am 100% on board in trying to bring a CFL team to St. Louis!</p> Rams in the CFL? Sure, but let's not get gluttonous, OK...?tag:www.stlramscfl.com,2016-02-23:6300087:Topic:415612016-02-23T15:22:06.159ZOs Davishttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/OsDavis
<p>As a writer/editor for both a CFL website (CFLpass.ca) and a Rams website (LARams.net), I wrote about the CFL expanding to St. Louis back in October:</p>
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<p>...so kudos for getting this site started! St. Louis would host an awesome CFL team. Fantastic idea. But, in light of this site's launch, i wrote this up today:…</p>
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<p>As a writer/editor for both a CFL website (CFLpass.ca) and a Rams website (LARams.net), I wrote about the CFL expanding to St. Louis back in October:</p>
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<p>...so kudos for getting this site started! St. Louis would host an awesome CFL team. Fantastic idea. But, in light of this site's launch, i wrote this up today:</p>
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<p>In short, let's not get too greedy or big-thinking here. The CFL currently has nine teams, which makes for some odd scheduling problems, i.e. during some holiday weekends, for example, one team must play twice in four days so that no other team gets the requisite bye. Adding a 10th team, particularly one in a market as large and viable as St. Louis, would make tons of sense.</p>
<p>The problem i see on this site and in reaction to it are a lot of suggestions about adding whole new divisions, essentially repeating the disaster of the 1990s when the CFL first tried US expansion.</p>
<p>Not to dampen anyone's enthusiasm or anything, but i'd suggest backers of the CFL in St. Louis keep the fantasies simple for now. Let's learn from the examples of over-expansion by the USFL, Arena League and the CFL itself.</p>
<p>St. Louis in the CFL, yea. More US cities, nay.</p> CFL in St Louistag:www.stlramscfl.com,2016-02-22:6300087:Topic:412712016-02-22T17:35:24.338ZDogdroolhttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/Dogdrool
<p>Hello to the great football fans of St Louis, I would be in favor of a CFL team in your great city but there are problems before even starting the process. Yes the CFL expanded before in the USA but the problems were not solved before starting which hurt the new franchises with the exception of Baltimore which won the Grey Cup. The first problem of course is most fans had a bit of a problem with rule differences. Do not get me wrong once an American fan is exposed to the faster based throw…</p>
<p>Hello to the great football fans of St Louis, I would be in favor of a CFL team in your great city but there are problems before even starting the process. Yes the CFL expanded before in the USA but the problems were not solved before starting which hurt the new franchises with the exception of Baltimore which won the Grey Cup. The first problem of course is most fans had a bit of a problem with rule differences. Do not get me wrong once an American fan is exposed to the faster based throw happy game they get hooked. So that is the first problem. Second problem is US coaches have difficulty understanding the differences and the fact bigger players on the oline and dline do not equal speed. In the CFL it is based on speed most American CFL teams back then did not follow this and soon found out they were on the losing end. A new team in a new league must show fans they can compete this did not happen. The linemen in the CFL are not large hulking guys but speed demons to get to the QB that one yard off the line of scrimage lets them get a quick start past an olineman. Olineman can be larger but they too need to be quick. The biggest hurdle is that in the rules and this is the big hold up is that each team must have 18 Canadians in their starting lineup. Now the point here is to develop Canadian football players so this is the stumbling block. US labor laws will not allow suck a restriction. However if you look at the NHL hockey teams most players have Canadian citizenship. So this is a bit puzzling why after all out of 53 players in all CFL teams are made up of US players? So why 18 Canadians on a US roster should not be looked down at. </p>
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<p>Coaches understanding the dynamics of the Canadian game first off Marc Trestman who coached the Chicago Bears in the NFL did poorly yet won a Canadian Championship the thing his assistants were mostly Canadian or American coaches with CFL experience. </p>
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<p>The Canadian player ratio for each team is the biggest problem and one that could not be fixed in the expansion to the USA. Even though now many Canadian college players have been selected in the NFL draft each year the ratio still remains. Most starting line ups have 35 American players and 18 Canadians. </p>
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<p>The Canadian game is faster and his pass happy but big plays on that larger field makes it very exciting. </p>
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<p>So the problem I pointed out here how would you as a fan in St Louis see getting around these problems?</p>
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<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1273301375?profile=original" target="_self"></a>Unless St. Louis want's to wait another 20 years for the NFL to grant us another team (as LA did), the CFL is our best option to have Professional Football in St. Louis. So, do we waste our time begging the NFL for the next 2 decades (or more) or do we get creative, and strategic, and develop a football franchise that is uniquely St. Louis?</p>
<p><a href="http://storage.ning.com/topology/rest/1.0/file/get/1273301375?profile=original" target="_self"></a>Unless St. Louis want's to wait another 20 years for the NFL to grant us another team (as LA did), the CFL is our best option to have Professional Football in St. Louis. So, do we waste our time begging the NFL for the next 2 decades (or more) or do we get creative, and strategic, and develop a football franchise that is uniquely St. Louis?</p>