Another CFL USA expansion COULD work, ESPECIALLY in St. Louis! - STLRAMSCFL.COM2024-03-29T13:52:44Zhttp://www.stlramscfl.com/forum/topics/another-cfl-usa-expansion-could-work-especially-in-st-louis?commentId=6300087%3AComment%3A43516&xg_raw_resources=1&feed=yes&xn_auth=noWith the support St.Louis sho…tag:www.stlramscfl.com,2020-07-07:6300087:Comment:1150022020-07-07T17:11:45.554ZArgoscflfanhttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/Argoscflfan
<p>With the support St.Louis showed for the Battlehawks it’s obvious there is still a huge appetite for football in the city.</p>
<p>Would there be the same support for a CFL team?</p>
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<p>With the support St.Louis showed for the Battlehawks it’s obvious there is still a huge appetite for football in the city.</p>
<p>Would there be the same support for a CFL team?</p>
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<p></p> As a Canadian, I think the CF…tag:www.stlramscfl.com,2018-09-12:6300087:Comment:485042018-09-12T16:56:33.838Zgeehttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/gee
<p>As a Canadian, I think the CFL expanding to the US should happen. but I think there should be a separate US division, starting with 6 teams.</p>
<p>I think St. Louis could be a great location. with additional opportunity to target centres with MLS stadiums.</p>
<p>I'd suggest adapting the field for the US teams to fit the MLS field. 100 yard field length, 65 yard field width, and 15 yard end-zones. The slight difference in field dimensions wouldn't be much of a difference - similar to slight…</p>
<p>As a Canadian, I think the CFL expanding to the US should happen. but I think there should be a separate US division, starting with 6 teams.</p>
<p>I think St. Louis could be a great location. with additional opportunity to target centres with MLS stadiums.</p>
<p>I'd suggest adapting the field for the US teams to fit the MLS field. 100 yard field length, 65 yard field width, and 15 yard end-zones. The slight difference in field dimensions wouldn't be much of a difference - similar to slight rule differences in AL and NL in MLB.</p>
<p>the Canadian player ration is the bigger sticking point. but I think that could be solved by introducing a local/regional content rule for US teams. US teams would be required to have a certain number of players from within a geographic region that is based on population.</p> I lived through the debacle o…tag:www.stlramscfl.com,2017-08-05:6300087:Comment:464022017-08-05T00:28:34.351ZMarc Singerhttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/MarcSinger
<div class="discussion"><div class="description"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I lived through the debacle of losing an NFL franchise, the Baltimore Colts. Until the CFL Stallions came to Baltimore I has supported the Philadelphia Eagles. I can understand your pain.<br></br>The Stallions drew about 30,000 fans prior to their move to Montreal, brought on by the establishment of the Ravens. I still follow the <span>Alouettes as my adopted CFL team. </span></p>
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<p><span>For the most part…</span></p>
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<div class="discussion"><div class="description"><div class="xg_user_generated"><p>I lived through the debacle of losing an NFL franchise, the Baltimore Colts. Until the CFL Stallions came to Baltimore I has supported the Philadelphia Eagles. I can understand your pain.<br/>The Stallions drew about 30,000 fans prior to their move to Montreal, brought on by the establishment of the Ravens. I still follow the <span>Alouettes as my adopted CFL team. </span></p>
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<p><span>For the most part the CFL is a pure passing league. It has a lot of action packed into 60 seconds of play.Since the playing field is large you can get plenty of scoring with just 3 downs. The players are as skilled as NFL players but the skill set is a little different due to the league differences.</span></p>
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<p><span>The CFL wants to expand to ten teams. Most likely the Maritime provinces. The problem has been that Hallifax-Monkton has not come up with money for a new stadium and may not have an ownership group that can provide stability. </span></p>
<p><span>Here is my advice for "bending the ear" of CFl officials regarding a second USA expansion;</span></p>
<p><span>1, Be willing to give up on the "Rams". The NFL sued Jim Speros regarding the name Colts.</span></p>
<p><span>He did not have the same amount of financial deep pockets as the Billionaires who own the NFL franchises. So Stallions was born.</span></p>
<p><span>2. Be willing to become the 10th franchise in the CFL, probably Eastern division. If you get a CFL franchise and it is successful other USA cities may follow.</span></p>
<p><span>3. You need a STRONG ownership group.</span></p>
<p><span>4. Don't "Mickey Mouse" the stadium. Have a field conform to CFL requirements. </span></p>
<p><span>5. You will probable need to show a base of solid 30,000 season ticket holders. No need for PSLs!</span></p>
<p><span>Good luck to all Pro football fans in St. Louis and other cities screwed by the NFL..</span></p>
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</div> Its a shame that US TV Networ…tag:www.stlramscfl.com,2017-03-27:6300087:Comment:447072017-03-27T21:52:38.709ZHartford Whaleshttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/HartfordBlues
<p>Its a shame that US TV Networks aren't willing to invest in secondary sports leagues to try and build new live ratings sources. They won't pay the tv rights fees that would need for a league like this to survive off the bat. </p>
<p>Its a shame that US TV Networks aren't willing to invest in secondary sports leagues to try and build new live ratings sources. They won't pay the tv rights fees that would need for a league like this to survive off the bat. </p> How realistic is it for the C…tag:www.stlramscfl.com,2017-03-27:6300087:Comment:450012017-03-27T21:34:37.735ZMichael Bettencourthttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/MichaelBettencourt
<p>How realistic is it for the CFL to expand to San Diego and Oakland? NFL would probably do everything to block the CFL from expanding into these cities.</p>
<p>How realistic is it for the CFL to expand to San Diego and Oakland? NFL would probably do everything to block the CFL from expanding into these cities.</p> It would be great to have a f…tag:www.stlramscfl.com,2017-03-02:6300087:Comment:448012017-03-02T06:01:24.834Zgeehttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/gee
<p>It would be great to have a few US teams in the league - particularly if the right Baltimore-like markets and patient owners could be identified. We still have a loyal Baltimore contingent travel each year to the Grey Cup game. </p>
<p>It would be great to have a few US teams in the league - particularly if the right Baltimore-like markets and patient owners could be identified. We still have a loyal Baltimore contingent travel each year to the Grey Cup game. </p> As a Canadian, it would be gr…tag:www.stlramscfl.com,2017-01-13:6300087:Comment:445012017-01-13T21:08:49.487ZMichael Bettencourthttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/MichaelBettencourt
<p>As a Canadian, it would be great to see the CFL in San Diego as well as in St. Louis. Great cities great football fans. One of the major problems with the CFL is that it´s run by too many “old thinkers”. They need to be convinced that opportunities exist for the league to grow and evolve outside of the Canadian borders. The league needs to increase its membership. Now, does the CFL approach St. Louis and San Diego or does St. Louis and San Diego approach the CFL?</p>
<p>As a Canadian, it would be great to see the CFL in San Diego as well as in St. Louis. Great cities great football fans. One of the major problems with the CFL is that it´s run by too many “old thinkers”. They need to be convinced that opportunities exist for the league to grow and evolve outside of the Canadian borders. The league needs to increase its membership. Now, does the CFL approach St. Louis and San Diego or does St. Louis and San Diego approach the CFL?</p> San Diego market freeing up n…tag:www.stlramscfl.com,2017-01-12:6300087:Comment:444052017-01-12T19:00:26.271ZMatt Ehttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/MattE
<p>San Diego market freeing up now with loss of the Chargers is big and the reaction of fans there is identical to St. Louis. The vast majority are angry with both the owner and the NFL and it's all but guaranteed that NFL viewership will be down significantly for the 2017 season and beyond in San Diego. That market could be a goldmine for the CFL and the NFL doesn't want to leave it. Here's another key piece - the city of San Diego still owes more than $50 million on its stadium bonds and will…</p>
<p>San Diego market freeing up now with loss of the Chargers is big and the reaction of fans there is identical to St. Louis. The vast majority are angry with both the owner and the NFL and it's all but guaranteed that NFL viewership will be down significantly for the 2017 season and beyond in San Diego. That market could be a goldmine for the CFL and the NFL doesn't want to leave it. Here's another key piece - the city of San Diego still owes more than $50 million on its stadium bonds and will be left holding the bag even after the Chargers pay the $12 million or so penalty to break the lease with the city. St. Louis is in the same boat with the dome. The CFL now has available two ex-NFL US cities with football stadiums in dire need of tenants, although St. Louis does get more convention revenue with the Rams gone. Throw in Oakland and San Antonio and that makes four extremely viable and attractive US markets for the CFL. The league's TV contract will also be up for renewal in 2021. That deal is currently C$40 million per year with TSN or C$4.1 million per each of the nine franchises. Another interesting angle for St. Louis is that a CFL ownership group could potentially partner with the local MLS group for a combined use stadium and try to solve the shortfall of funding for that stadium created by the new governor killing any state subsidy. The beauty of the CFL for potential US investment groups is you don't have to be a billionaire to be an owner or part of an ownership group - the expansion fee for the Ottawa team that started in 2014 was about C$7 million and the current salary cap is C$5.1 million. Opportunities are out there and it will be interesting to see if the CFL takes advantage.</p> Great cities and names but I…tag:www.stlramscfl.com,2016-12-30:6300087:Comment:439042016-12-30T23:35:56.934ZMichael Bettencourthttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/MichaelBettencourt
<p>Great cities and names but I don´t think Las Vegas, San Antonio, Oklahoma City and Mexico City would work as CFL cities. I have my doubts about San Diego and especially Oakland given that the NFL has left and then returned to this city. I agree, six teams would be an excellent number of teams to start, just need a decent TV deal and some good investors.</p>
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<p>Great cities and names but I don´t think Las Vegas, San Antonio, Oklahoma City and Mexico City would work as CFL cities. I have my doubts about San Diego and especially Oakland given that the NFL has left and then returned to this city. I agree, six teams would be an excellent number of teams to start, just need a decent TV deal and some good investors.</p>
<p></p> I agree. The CFL needs to pic…tag:www.stlramscfl.com,2016-12-30:6300087:Comment:439022016-12-30T23:19:00.602ZMichael Bettencourthttp://www.stlramscfl.com/profile/MichaelBettencourt
<p>I agree. The CFL needs to pick up its pace as far as expansion is concerned. I understand why they´re hesitant in expanding again into the US, but the circumstances are different now given the stability of the league. Get/find investors and potential owners who are serious about getting a CFL franchise into St. Louis (and other US markets), then everything should fall into place. Obviously, going too far south isn´t the “smart” thing to do. The CFL needs to do a study on which US cities are…</p>
<p>I agree. The CFL needs to pick up its pace as far as expansion is concerned. I understand why they´re hesitant in expanding again into the US, but the circumstances are different now given the stability of the league. Get/find investors and potential owners who are serious about getting a CFL franchise into St. Louis (and other US markets), then everything should fall into place. Obviously, going too far south isn´t the “smart” thing to do. The CFL needs to do a study on which US cities are ideal/more suited for the league. Personally, new teams would give the league a much needed face lift. St. Louis definitely fits that bill.</p>